What defines an ace in 2025? Breaking down what success looks like for today's star pitchers

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  • David SchoenfieldSep 17, 2025, 07:00 AM ET

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Baseball fans who grew up connected 20-game winners recognize -- sometimes with overmuch chagrin, sometimes with much emphatic degrees of fearfulness -- that the expectations for a starting pitcher are overmuch antithetic successful 2025 than 10 years ago, fto unsocial 20, 30 oregon 40 years ago.

The implicit crippled is each but dormant -- nary pitcher has much than 1 nine-inning implicit crippled this season. One 100 pitches is present viewed arsenic the apical bounds for a transportation count, with pitchers seldom exceeding 110 -- Randy Johnson had much 110-pitch outings conscionable successful 1993 than each starter combined successful 2025. Pitchers get much days disconnected betwixt starts. And the database goes on.

Forty years agone successful 1985, 20-year-old right-hander Dwight Gooden went 24-4 with a 1.53 ERA portion starring the National League with 16 implicit games and 268 strikeouts; left-hander John Tudor went 21-8 with a 1.93 ERA, 14 implicit games and 10 shutouts.

Paul Skenes and Tarik Skubal are this season's equivalents to Gooden and Tudor, the apical starting pitchers successful the majors, but erstwhile you excavation into their numbers compared to their 1985 counterparts, the alteration successful the modern crippled for pitchers is evidently evident and raises the question: What does an ace look similar successful 2025?

Skenes, who's the dense favourite to triumph the NL Cy Young Award and should decorativeness with the highest WAR for a Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher since the lively shot epoch began successful 1920, has an MLB-best 2.03 ERA portion starring the NL successful strikeouts and WAR. He has had 11 scoreless outings this play -- but his win-loss grounds is conscionable 10-10. Skubal is the favourite to triumph the AL Cy Young Award for the 2nd consecutive play with conscionable 13 wins and whitethorn not scope 200 innings, conscionable arsenic helium didn't this past season.

While Tudor had 10 shutouts successful 1 season, determination person been conscionable 12 implicit crippled shutouts crossed the full large leagues successful 2025, cipher with much than one. The lone pitcher with a changeable to triumph 20 games, which was erstwhile the longstanding prerequisite to triumph a Cy Young Award, is Max Fried, who has 17 but mightiness marque conscionable 2 much starts. And Skubal's and Skenes' numbers aren't adjacent unsocial from caller Cy Young winners: We've seen starters unafraid the grant with 13 wins (Robbie Ray successful 2021 and Felix Hernandez successful 2010), 11 (Corbin Burnes successful 2021 and Jacob deGrom successful 2019) and adjacent a specified 10 (deGrom successful 2018).

But adjacent if their stat lines disagree from past apical hurlers, Skenes and Skubal are having large seasons wrong the discourse of however the crippled is played successful 2025 and however pitchers are present managed. We're not going backmost anytime soon to 1969, erstwhile 15 pitchers won 20 games, oregon 1974, erstwhile 34 pitchers threw astatine slightest 250 innings (we'll beryllium fortunate to get 2 oregon 3 pitchers to scope 200 innings successful 2025).

So, arsenic the regular play winds down, we acceptable retired to find what defines a large play for an ace successful 2025. How should we comparison the aces of the past to those of today? And what is the measurement of occurrence for an ace successful 2025 compared to years prior?

To reply these questions, we went backmost 50 years to comparison 2025 to 1975, 1985, 1995, 2005 and 2015. My workfellow Kiley McDaniel suggests that determination are mostly astir 12 aces successful immoderate fixed season, truthful we'll usage that: the 12 aces from each of those seasons. Let's get into it.

Note: The 12 aces for each play were selected utilizing Baseball-Reference WAR, innings pitched, ERA and ERA+ (which adjusts for each pitcher's league and location parkland run-scoring context) arsenic the superior guidelines.


1975

Aces: Jim Palmer, Catfish Hunter, Tom Seaver, Jim Kaat, Randy Jones, Frank Tanana, Andy Messersmith, Bert Blyleven, Steve Busby, Gaylo...

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