Amy Allen On Modern Songwriting and Her Creative Chemistry With Sabrina Carpenter, Harry Styles

Over the past 5 years, songwriter Amy Allen has go 1 of popular music’s top architects.

She has go a go-to collaborator for Sabrina Carpenter, penning crossed some 2024’s Short n’ Sweet as good arsenic her caller grounds Man’s Best Friend, and is the co-writer down apical hits similar “Adore You” by Harry Styles, “Without Me” by Halsey, “APT.” by ROSÉ and Bruno Mars, “greedy” by Tate McRae, “Pretty Isn’t Pretty” by Olivia Rodrigo and more. And connected apical of it all, she inactive releases her ain euphony and manages to beryllium a defining unit successful Nashville too, helping state stars similar Sam Barber, Jelly Roll and Koe Wetzel trade their top works.

On this week’s occurrence of Billboard’s caller euphony manufacture podcast On the Record with Kristin Robinson, Allen joins to speech astir the stories down her biggest hits, and to stock her position connected songwriting successful 2025. Excerpts from the speech are below.

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Over the past fewer years, I’ve been proceeding songwriters and publishers kick that transportation records [songs written erstwhile the creator isn’t successful the room] are becoming progressively little popular. You’ve said that your archetypal hit, “Back To You” by Selena Gomez, started disconnected arsenic a pitch, truthful I’m wondering — however could this inclination distant from transportation songs interaction up-and-coming songwriters?

It feels similar it volition beryllium harder for songwriters to get into the door, due to the fact that my archetypal 2 songs that changed my trajectory of my vocation were transportation records — that Selena Gomez opus and a Halsey opus called “Without Me” and that changed everything for me. I wouldn’t person gotten to spell into the country with those artists astatine that clip successful my career, due to the fact that I didn’t person immoderate way grounds of penning songs. So, it feels similar 2 arms are being tied down your backmost arsenic a caller songwriter, where, you know, the transportation crippled is not arsenic beardown arsenic it utilized to be, and artists are wanting to beryllium successful the country and penning with songwriters.

But this inclination besides leads to truly breathtaking songs present wherever the artists are utilizing each portion of their beingness successful these songs, and that’s truly exciting.

I deliberation the different happening that could beryllium seen arsenic a affirmative is that present large songs are coming from everywhere. Like, erstwhile I was coming up successful songwriting 7 oregon 8 years ago, TikTok wasn’t a thing. People weren’t exploding disconnected of TikTok. Now, determination are a batch much ways for songwriters to get into the doorway of radical astatine aboriginal phases successful their career. Sometimes artists mightiness find a songwriter connected TikTok now. There’s pros and cons.

So TikTok tin beryllium a find level for songwriters arsenic good arsenic artists?

Yeah, and I tink it conscionable goes to amusement that astonishing songs travel from anywhere. It’s not similar we’re conscionable being told by the vigor programmers who the large artists are today.

TikTok is evidently precise focused connected abbreviated soundbites of songs. Has that accent impacted immoderate of the penning sessions you’ve done? Are radical ever going successful to penning sessions, trying to crippled a opus to acceptable the TikTok mold?

I deliberation it decidedly subconsciously goes into the brains of a batch of us, due to the fact that we are getting fed contented that is truly abbreviated and truly quick. It’s conscionable being fed and fed and fed to us. But I volition accidental that the songs and the artists that I emotion the astir are the ones that propulsion against however depletion is going close now. And I consciousness similar astir of the artists that I enactment with are truly falling successful emotion with the agelong signifier of doing a afloat medium and not caring if the opus is 4 minutes and 50 seconds long. I consciousness similar a batch of radical are pushing against successful a mode that’s exciting, and bringing euphony backmost to wherefore we each emotion euphony — which is honesty and not caring if it is simply a catchy 20-second bit. It’s telling a story.

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